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    Hello everyone,

    Once again, Godaddy is going down the drain and this time (at the time of posting) they are down and pretty much took half the internet with them.

    Needless to say this is hard to explain to non-technical users, that have no clue what DNS, DDoS or who Godaddy is for that matter. Fact is we have 40 clients on our VPS and we cant even tell them how long this takes. So we have decided to start looking for a new web-host. But as bad as Godaddy may be in some ways they are good in others. Here are the things that we would love to see at our new host:

    - Fedora or Ubuntu OS
    - Plesk 11 (unlimited domain support)
    - Full root/sudo
    - At least 3 ip addresses, but 5 would really be nice, and the option to order more (for SSL, DNS and in general use).
    - If possible development platform pre-installed (Python 2.7 and Django). This would require other web servers to be installed, maybe Nginx
    - Full MySQL, PHP and Apache package installed
    - 100GB space and bandwidth (or at least sensibly close to those numbers)
    - If possible horde mail installed on the server
    Last edited by Thinlinedata; 10th September 2012, 09:59 PM.

  • #2
    Hello,

    Do you need managed or unmanaged services?

    The location has to be UK or you are flexible on this?

    Budget?

    There are many options hence the questions.

    Dino

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    • #3
      Hi,

      You need to decide if you want a managed or unmanaged server.

      If you want unmanaged then the following will be a problem:

      If possible development platform pre-installed (Python 2.7 and Django). This would require other web servers to be installed, maybe Nginx
      Full MySQL, PHP and Apache package installed
      If possible horde mail installed on the server
      This is because it's unmanaged and you'll have to do all of this yourself, or pay to have it done. Whereas if you want managed then you'll find getting the following might be a problem:

      Fedora or Ubuntu OS
      Full root/sudo
      Most providers offering managed servers will decide on the OS and generally won't give you root access.

      Also, 100GB of disk space on a VPS server is really going to push the price up.
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      • #4
        Personally, I wouldn't use Fedora on a production hosting server - it's too unstable (in terms of package version changes etc.). You should run a production server on something less "bleeding edge" - CentOS is the usual choice from the Red Hat family, or if you prefer Deb/Ubuntu then one of the Ubuntu LTS releases is a good option too.

        As Neil already mentioned, it's strange that you're requesting all of these software environment things to be performed (such as LAMP install, horde etc.) but yet also want to manage the server yourself. These are really really basic operations, so it suggests that maybe these tasks are outside your comfort zone (in which case maybe you should be looking for a fully managed server instead?).

        Since you're using GoDaddy at the moment it implies maybe you're looking for a US based server? Or is that just that you bought a package from GoDaddy irrespective of location - it would be best to host your sites as near to the primary audience as possible, so if your clients are predominantly UK based you should look for UK hosting providers (most of the providers on this forum fit into that category).

        Originally posted by Thinlinedata View Post
        But as bad as Godaddy may be in some ways they are good in others.
        It might be worth expanding on this a little to explain what you like and what you don't, as that will influence which other providers you should be looking at. E.g. if your primary concern is price you don't buy a BMW, but if you want a luxury car you probably don't buy a Ford...

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        • #5
          If the basis of your decision to move from Godaddy is yesterdays DDos you should think carefully; As much as id rather support the little man instead of the big machine its alot of effort and they're not awful par se, Could have happened to anyone, They did actually respond to the issue professionally and quickly. Luckily none of my infrastructure relies on GD
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          • #6
            Originally posted by nickcarswell View Post
            If the basis of your decision to move from Godaddy is yesterdays DDos you should think carefully; As much as id rather support the little man instead of the big machine its alot of effort and they're not awful par se, Could have happened to anyone, They did actually respond to the issue professionally and quickly. Luckily none of my infrastructure relies on GD
            Interestingly, they're claiming that it wasn't a DDoS attack: Go Daddy Site Outage Investigation Completed - GoDaddy.com
            GoDaddy are abusing WHC with shill advertising

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ed-Freethought View Post
              Interestingly, they're claiming that it wasn't a DDoS attack: Go Daddy Site Outage Investigation Completed - GoDaddy.com
              Was it, Wasn't it, Only they'll ever know for sure.
              GoDaddy Outage Takes Down Millions Of Sites, Anonymous Member Claims Responsibility | TechCrunch
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              • #8
                Its a mystery! In the same its a mystery why Rob would be up at 4.30am in the morning!?!?!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nickcarswell View Post
                  Its a mystery! In the same its a mystery why Rob would be up at 4.30am in the morning!?!?!
                  It was probably to reset a counter that is counting down to the next reset. Now why that he's doing this IS a mystery!
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                  • #10
                    Hi,
                    Which location do you prefer?
                    How much is your budget?
                    You can also consider VDS as an option
                    ReadyMakers Ltd.
                    offering dedicated servers and virtual private servers.
                    www.readymakers.com

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by readymakers View Post
                      You can also consider VDS as an option
                      The OP asking about a VPS and dedicated server already. There's no distinction between a VPS and VDS (they're different names for the same thing as far as I can make out from general usage), so I'd say the OP is happy with a suitable VDS.

                      Like others though, it would be good to get a bit more information on what the OP wants from a service.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Thinlinedata View Post
                        Hello everyone,

                        Once again, Godaddy is going down the drain and this time (at the time of posting) they are down and pretty much took half the internet with them.

                        Needless to say this is hard to explain to non-technical users, that have no clue what DNS, DDoS or who Godaddy is for that matter. Fact is we have 40 clients on our VPS and we cant even tell them how long this takes. So we have decided to start looking for a new web-host. But as bad as Godaddy may be in some ways they are good in others. Here are the things that we would love to see at our new host:

                        - Fedora or Ubuntu OS
                        - Plesk 11 (unlimited domain support)
                        - Full root/sudo
                        - At least 3 ip addresses, but 5 would really be nice, and the option to order more (for SSL, DNS and in general use).
                        - If possible development platform pre-installed (Python 2.7 and Django). This would require other web servers to be installed, maybe Nginx
                        - Full MySQL, PHP and Apache package installed
                        - 100GB space and bandwidth (or at least sensibly close to those numbers)
                        - If possible horde mail installed on the server

                        Hey, did you manage with your choice?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gigatux View Post
                          The OP asking about a VPS and dedicated server already. There's no distinction between a VPS and VDS (they're different names for the same thing as far as I can make out from general usage), so I'd say the OP is happy with a suitable VDS.

                          Like others though, it would be good to get a bit more information on what the OP wants from a service.
                          There are indeed differences.
                          Like most of the companies host VDS on SAS or SSD whereas VPS are mostly hosted on SATA.
                          Also, there are more core priorities allocated to VDS rather than VPS.
                          In general, VDS is a bridge between choosing VPS and Dedicated Server.
                          If VPS does not meet the requirements and Dedicated Servers are too expensive or more than what is needed, that is time that VDS must be taken into account.
                          ReadyMakers Ltd.
                          offering dedicated servers and virtual private servers.
                          www.readymakers.com

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by readymakers View Post
                            There are indeed differences.
                            I respectfully disagree. There is no common agreement on the difference between a VPS and VDS. The 'Private' in VPS vaguely makes sense (as in it's your own server with full access, so sort of private) but the 'Dedicated' bit is so incredibly misleading. If everything was dedicated, it'd be a dedicated server.

                            It's absolutely consistent to have a VPS running over SAS disks or SSDs, or with dedicated cores.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gigatux View Post
                              I respectfully disagree. There is no common agreement on the difference between a VPS and VDS. The 'Private' in VPS vaguely makes sense (as in it's your own server with full access, so sort of private) but the 'Dedicated' bit is so incredibly misleading. If everything was dedicated, it'd be a dedicated server.

                              It's absolutely consistent to have a VPS running over SAS disks or SSDs, or with dedicated cores.

                              EDIT PAK::: BOBZ, that is a copy and paste from Google, which adds no meaning to this thread, so I've removed it. Thanks to the person who pointed this out.
                              Last edited by Pete-CCS; 16th November 2012, 10:49 AM.

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